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8632.6 #2 DL Qual #8 1-26-12 3:41PM
Standing on a Soap Box…….This morning I finally got annoyed with all the Face Character bashing that has been going on lately and felt that it was time to say something.. I know that sometimes it’s fun to laugh at others for having stuff on their teeth or making a funny face but some of the things that have been said lately have been flat out hurtful t those in the costumes. People forget that MouseWait is read by a lot of Cast Members. People in the Entertainment department go into the lounge to look and see if any pictures have been posted of them ALL THE TIME. See the lounge has a lot of people they don’t know and people may share one of those special or funny moments that a character might have with a little one and it’s just as fun for them to see as it is all of us. See there is a big difference between what we can do on Facebook and what they can..See while in the Entertainment dept, they really frown upon people posting, tagging or having albums of them while employed by Disney so this is really a big outlet to see those pictures….Being a Face Character is no walk in the park and is probably the hardest job to get in the Park. Disney has very strict guidelines to what the look of the character should be and how the Character portrays the character from the big screen. Some may think it’s easy just to walk around and take pictures and sigh autographs but it is really not that simple and I think for those who go to the parks know that. ...It’s come to my knowledge today from several cast members in the Entertainment dept. that they have actually been hurt and bummed out by some of the things that have been said in here and its making MouseWaiit look bad…I think that its easy to be in a pack mentality on MouseWait and start ripping on things because it’s become popular and everyone is doing it…I don’t think that there is anything wrong with being critical or talking about a bad experience at the parks but when people start throwing low blows about their looks no matter how strong you are its going to sting a little bit.......Would you take a picture of Baseball mickey CMShellypee and make fun of their appearance in the lounge?
One last thing...WE all know and so do the People Playing the Characters know that they might not look as much like the character as the girl or guy who plays it Monday and Tuesday but they look pretty darn good...One of my X girlfriends use to always laugh that she was approved to do Cinderella because she thought she looked NOTHING like Cindy - Dave  8632.6 #2 1-26-12 3:55PM Like(13)  Reply
Very well said! I have missed the bashing but these cast members are the magic! And MW NEEDS to have a positive name in Disney, not a negative name. I want to be proud to be a MOUSEWAITER, not embarassed! Thanks Dave for saying this! - zippitydoodahdad  15.9 #5531 1-26-12 6:02PM
Thank you for posting this, Dave!!!! Maybe people will start thinking about the image on the screen as a " REAL PERSON" and not just a pic of some random CM. Getting a cheap laugh at someone else's expense is childish and a bad a example to our younger MWers and to the rest of the community. - Candace  1737.8 #44 1-26-12 3:51PM Like(6)  Reply
Thank you. It's the same as when people were posting pictures of guests at the parks and ridiculed them. It stopped because we decided they were people that could possibly be on MouseWait or someone who knew the person could come across it. For some reason it then became okay to criticize face character's appearance. It's not okay to blantantly tease someone just because they're portraying a character and I'm glad this is going to come to an end. Why is it suddenly fine to tear down someone just because they're in character? It's disgusting behavior. Disney made the choice to cast them so all you're doing is doubting their decisions. - MayBie  1864.2 #40 1-26-12 3:54PM Like(5)  Reply
If I've learned one thing from MW, it's to not jump on the bandwagon. I said this in the other thread, but it could be mentioned here. When you're an actor/performer, you open yourself up to inevitable critique and criticism. However, the banter went way beyond appropriate over the last few days. Thank you for reminding us all to think before we post, regardless of the topic :) - Spoonful_O_Sugar  435.8 #283 1-26-12 8:01PM Like(4)  Reply
I'm in no way comparing myself to a CM but I have spent countless hours as Darth Vader with the 501st and done Jack Sparrow a number of times for charity events and public functions! It really irritates me to the point of Hulk like anger when I see people taking shots like this ! Most people have no idea what's it takes to be in a blazing hot suit, taking photo after photo with screaming kids and understanding that you have to give every child the same experience whether you are tired, hungry, hot, or having a "bad day"! If you have never been in that position, it's probably best to stay mute, and that's a nice way of saying it! Anybody can buy a costume from the Halloween store and get trashed at a party, but to do countless hours of research to become a character and get into their mentality is not easy AT ALL savvy! Thanks Dave for posting this! - DarthSparrow  35.7 #4135 1-26-12 11:40PM Like(3)  Reply
i agree with ya buddy! whenever i take a picture of a face character i always thank them and smile, and they always say something back and smile. - chris.  2507.1 #24 1-26-12 3:43PM Like(2)  Reply
Me too Chris. I thanked all of them yesterday for posing and they were all very polite in return. - Mimmy  1405.4 #57 1-26-12 4:22PM
yeah they are great, even if the line has already closed to take pictures if a child runs up to them they will still stop for a picture or autograph. or even better they will ask if they want to walk with them until they get to the CM area. and they are all really nice about posing for the camera, most of the time even if i'm to the side of the line they will face me and pose. - chris.  2507.1 #24 1-26-12 4:24PM
I couldn't agree more and I think this should be extended to include people that are in a picture that have no knowledge of it. I always feels bad when a picture is posted and people tease someone else in the photo. It's a mean bully tactic and isn't the at all necessary. It is really easy to tease when you are in an online forum and hopefully it doesn't continue. - LisaMouse7531  408.9 #316 1-26-12 4:03PM Like(2)  Reply
Well said. Good reminder too, this is a PUBLIC forum. One doesn't need to be logged in to read!!! Be aware of what you say. :) - JenAnneWho  300.7 #609 1-26-12 4:11PM Like(2)  Reply
Now I feel like a donkey's butt...sometimes I get carried away with my jokes, and they can be legitimately hurtful, and for that, I apologize - Kari_Bo_Berry  361.5 #386 1-26-12 4:13PM Like(2)  Reply
I was thinking the same. I get carried away. I honestly didn't mean any harm. But that doesn't make it okay. - MagicalCaprice  480.6 #246 1-26-12 4:32PM
MC and I are going to slink off to the corner with our tails between our legs - Kari_Bo_Berry  361.5 #386 1-26-12 6:11PM
I hate CMs. They all smell like vodka and Sucrets. Or maybe that's just me. - Experiment818  1598.0 #47 1-26-12 8:45PM Like(2)  Reply
Thank you Dave. - Zara  283.3 #707 1-26-12 3:45PM Like(1)  Reply
Thanks for posting I love all the face characters one day I would love to be one but I just don't know if I would get in. They are taking there time out to make kids very happy not for adults poking fun entertainment. - princessVanessa  382.5 #350 1-26-12 3:47PM Like(1)  Reply
I agree Dave. I enjoys seeing all the characters out and about I would be sad if they took some one out because of comments made here. - Veronica21  167.9 #2034 1-26-12 3:47PM Like(1)  Reply
CMshellypee is AWESOME! - VfxGenie  1352.8 #59 1-26-12 3:49PM Like(1)  Reply
Thanks dave. I love them all. I really look up to them.  - BooEve123  800.3 #115 1-26-12 3:50PM Like(1)  Reply
I agree. Thank you for putting it in this perspective. It needed to be said. - JessicaRabbit33  667.9 #155 1-26-12 3:51PM Like(1)  Reply
Well said Dave! Let's keep this bumped so everyone can understand! Face characters are SO important to children and I'd hate to see any of them have a bad day and not light up a little one's eyes because they're bummed about something mean that someone said on MW. I don't like that they're making MW look bad and I hope the offended see this post and realize it isn't MW as a whole, just a few bad apples :/ - AlishaSkellington  175.2 #1921 1-26-12 3:52PM Like(1)  Reply
FINALLY!!!!! Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!! - 2BeignetOrNot2Beignet  253.2 #978 1-26-12 3:53PM Like(1)  Reply
Very well said. Thank you for posting this and although sometimes I think it is all in good fun, we forget that we are laughing at someone else's expense. Thank you for the reminder! - EpicDio  380.9 #352 1-26-12 3:53PM Like(1)  Reply
Well said...if there's a legitimate complaint, take it to City Hall. - Darlingwendi  631.6 #171 1-26-12 3:53PM Like(1)  Reply
Great point! - Dimo  66.3 #3462 1-26-12 5:15PM
👍 - Tealtownfan  692.5 #143 1-26-12 3:54PM Like(1)  Reply
Thank you Dave. I'm sad that this even needed to be said. But I'm hoping it will have a big impact coming from you. - SueBayou  2012.0 #34 1-26-12 3:58PM Like(1)  Reply
Bravo! All he characters are amazing!! I absolutely love seeing how kids (& adults) react when meeting their fave princess or character. It's priceless! They work so hard and are good at what they do! - luvMickey  491.7 #241 1-26-12 3:59PM Like(1)  Reply
Thank you Dave!! Some may not fit our image of them, but it doesn't give us the right to poke fun at them - MarshaMouse  2834.8 #15 1-26-12 4:01PM Like(1)  Reply
thank you! thank you! thank you! I knew there was something to say and you said it right! - BaseballMickey_CM  2806.8 #16 1-26-12 4:03PM Like(1)  Reply
Nicely said Dave. A welcome reminder to all of us, to be more conscience of what we say, myself included. Thank you. 👏👏👍👍 - DisneyFanZoe  1096.7 #75 1-26-12 4:04PM Like(1)  Reply
Thank you so much for saying something. Having this perspective from a person who has been in those specific shoes is a great perspective and IMO it was time someone said something. I was starting to think it was becoming too insensitive and wanted to say something, but I didn't wanna be bashed or told I was wrong. One commen In particular about a princess (will not name who said what and about who) made me think to myself ( "Wow! Who are you to judge. That was harsh." So I let it go and stayed quiet. No one in this world is perfect and we all hav our qualities which make us unique and beautiful. So thank you again for stepping up and giving us that perspective. I hope the CM's know that we respect what they do for us every day. It takes a special individual to be a CM an they are all special in their own way and contribute to the magic the best way they can. Thank you to all CM's. 👏👏 And thank you Dave! 👍 - Aurora_2020  257.8 #927 1-26-12 4:10PM Like(1)  Reply
It was most likely my comment and I'm pretty ashamed because you're right, I have no right to judge someone else, especially on their appearance. I get caught up in the sarcasm and see everyone else doing it and its easier for me to justify my rudeness, which is wrong. So I thank you and everyone else for pointing this out - Kari_Bo_Berry  361.5 #386 1-26-12 7:21PM
im soooo glad u posted this dave...thank u ..these people live our dream...they r the reasin disney is magical for kids an all of us...thanks dave - akmouser73  139.1 #2451 1-26-12 4:12PM Like(1)  Reply
Thanks for the reminder Dave. I almost deleted my character collage yesterday because of all the negative comments but decided to leave it up since lots of MWers want to see the live park pics, especially of characters, and I didn't want to take the joy away from them. But it made me sad to see the comments posted on those pics for the reasons you mentioned above and also because I took time out of my DL day to take those pics and post them. - Mimmy  1405.4 #57 1-26-12 4:21PM Like(1)  Reply
I loved your collage :) - Jillian  765.4 #128 1-26-12 4:24PM
i thought it was great you went hunting for ariel too! - chris.  2507.1 #24 1-26-12 4:26PM
I loved your collage! It made my day! Even if I think a way about someone I'm not going to say it publicly!! They are Choosen for a reason they have to have the sparkle that makes them a face character! Plus on pictures people might not look the same as they do in person!! - UrsulasTwin  297.1 #623 1-26-12 4:30PM
Thanks guys. And Chris, I lucked out with Ariel. I was sitting down taking a break in Fantasyland and overheard a CM tell another guest that she would be out soon. :) - Mimmy  1405.4 #57 1-26-12 4:33PM
👍 I've had, on the whole, very positive experiences with the characters, even when I am a grown lady asking to take a picture by myself. 😂😂😂 - bluefairy  627.0 #174 1-26-12 4:53PM Like(1)  Reply
Thank you for saying this Dave. All that matters is that sparkle in the children's eyes when they see characters, that's what Disney magic is about. - LBChica  1499.9 #51 1-26-12 5:30PM Like(1)  Reply
I came out of lurk land to say thanks for posting this! Kudos to you Dave! - RandyNewman  401.0 #330 1-26-12 5:45PM Like(1)  Reply
newb😜 - toph  2398.1 #25 1-26-12 5:47PM
Hi Toph!! - RandyNewman  401.0 #330 1-26-12 6:04PM
Hi Rsuff! 😘😘😘 - Mrsblue  692.4 #144 1-26-12 7:30PM
Hi MrsBlue!! - RandyNewman  401.0 #330 1-26-12 8:41PM
Hi RSuff and MrsRSuff😘😘 mrsblue😘 - toph  2398.1 #25 1-26-12 10:10PM
Well said! Thank you for posting this Dave! - Sallyskellington  195.5 #1692 1-26-12 5:55PM Like(1)  Reply
:) thank you. - DisneyVillain  355.8 #399 1-26-12 6:08PM Like(1)  Reply
LET 'EM KNOW DAVE! - SoloSiyoNqoba  565.3 #196 1-26-12 6:21PM Like(1)  Reply
👏👏👏 - chrissykins  825.5 #111 1-26-12 6:31PM Like(1)  Reply
Dave your absolutely right, I participated in one of those threads but discussed an experience I had that I chalked up to a bad day, I commend all the face characters for staying character at all times putting up with kids stepping on them and touching them and the parents carrying on taking 1000 pictures. They really deserve our appreciation! - akpoppins  243.3 #1064 1-26-12 7:44PM Like(1)  Reply
I am honestly not mad at anyone or directing this at any one person but just saying this as a whole. I know that I have done these things and said things about others in the past and I am just as guilty as everyone else for calling peter pan a scary ginger in tights but I feel that way about all Gingers not just Peter pan (I'm kidding) I honestly just thing that people got carried away and nobody really thought that these people might actually read the lounge or did not look at them as real people but cartoons on your TV...I don't think that anyone meant any harm and hope I didn't make any of you feel bad cause I was not my intentions - Dave  8632.6 #2 1-26-12 9:47PM Like(1)  Reply
I see all people as a cartoon. I see the world as a brightly colored episode of Adventure Time. - MagicalCaprice  480.6 #246 1-26-12 9:48PM
Very well said! It seems like MW Has become a gossip column of complaints & negativity. Making MW lose its true purpose. Hopefully people get the message & stop or post their negative/gossip on other websites. Thanks DAVE!!! - Bellsmom1231  68.8 #3423 1-27-12 12:13PM Like(1)  Reply
Dear Dave: I lurve you. So there. - Butterlina  1307.4 #61 1-26-12 3:50PM Like  Reply
He's okay. 😜 - bluefairy  627.0 #174 1-26-12 4:39PM
👊 - Momof2princesses  151.6 #2259 1-26-12 4:06PM Like  Reply
Agreed. I love all the characters. One of my favorite things to do in DL is visit them. I remember posting a picture of Peter a few weeks ago and was pretty surprised at all the negative comments. - Jillian  765.4 #128 1-26-12 4:16PM Like  Reply
I was shocked too and hurt because I know how peter acts - DisneyVillain  355.8 #399 1-26-12 9:30PM
Very well said, thank you!!!! - MinnieMousewife  570.0 #193 1-26-12 4:35PM Like  Reply
Well said Dave...people often forget that these are people too. Nobody deserves to be made fun of or degraded because they arent what you want them to be. If you have a bad experience let Disney know..if it was a store clerk you would do that Im sure or would you take a picture of the store CM and post all kinds of mean things?...they are there to make the children happy...stop judging cause poor Peter isnt "Speiling Peter" be nice!  - yellowtonka  237.6 #1134 1-26-12 5:12PM Like  Reply
Whoa. You go Dave! - theRealDisneygirlforevr  175.3 #1920 1-26-12 5:16PM Like  Reply
Thank you for saying this! You're the best!:) - CarmenINwonderlanD  252.2 #988 1-26-12 5:18PM Like  Reply
For me if I was a character. I wouldn't listen to the talk. Just seeing the glow on kids faces cause they met you would be enough for me. But thank you cast members for making my son's time at Disneyland magical. - Chumash28  763.3 #130 1-26-12 5:22PM Like  Reply
Well said Dave. - LeleMouse  224.1 #1306 1-26-12 5:25PM Like  Reply
Well said Dave ^_^ 👏👏👏 I certainly would not want to see anyone ragging on any fellow CMs that I know! - SkellyMouse  501.3 #235 1-26-12 5:33PM Like  Reply
Thank you and thanks to everyone who takes such wonderful pics out there - PinkElephants  633.5 #169 1-26-12 6:20PM Like  Reply
I'm so glad you posted this, and I completely agree. I just kept thinking about these young people who had probably dreamed of working for Disney, and had worked so hard and finally made it through the tough criteria that Disney requires, then to be judged so harshly must have just hurt their hearts if they were ever to see it. I know I would be devastated. Thanks for the reminder that words have great power, and let's all use our power for good and not evil, lol :) - PrincessKristin  774.5 #124 1-26-12 7:05PM Like  Reply
I don't think you could have said it better Dave :) - Jewelz  440.8 #280 1-26-12 7:11PM Like  Reply
I just hope he was wearing pants when he posted this. - Butterlina  1307.4 #61 1-26-12 7:15PM
Kidding. - Butterlina  1307.4 #61 1-26-12 7:15PM
And Dave. 😜 - Butterlina  1307.4 #61 1-26-12 7:16PM
Pantless on a soap box? Sounds dangerous! - Jewelz  440.8 #280 1-26-12 7:21PM
On occasion I have been known to do this. 😳 - Butterlina  1307.4 #61 1-26-12 7:22PM
Scandalous! I like it. - Jewelz  440.8 #280 1-26-12 7:26PM
Thanks for putting us all in check Dave, things have been getting a lil haywire around here lately so this is a great reminder that we can all have fun and joke around but there are limits to when and where it's appropriate! - donnievegas  1127.5 #72 1-26-12 7:24PM Like  Reply
Yes - Butterlina  1307.4 #61 1-26-12 7:25PM
Words can hurt Thank you ftom the bottom of our s. - SeñorBuzz&Jessie  62.4 #3523 1-26-12 7:27PM Like  Reply
👏👏👏👏👏👏 - Mrsblue  692.4 #144 1-26-12 7:30PM Like  Reply
Thank you. For saying this Dave. Someone tried saying something earlier and I agreed and other started making excuses why it was okay and I got really sad and angry. :( But I didn't feel like starting drama so I didn't say anything. I think every face character is beautiful or handsome in their own way. I do apologize for a few weeks ago joking about one of the Peters. I was joking but If I read it and didn't know me it might of been hurtful. - NeverlandTink  421.4 #303 1-26-12 7:36PM Like  Reply
Well said, I think a lot of people on here forget how widely read this forum is and that those are real people behind the costumes with real feelings.. Let's keep this about the positive and if you have a legit complaint then go to city hall - KelBelle  452.8 #271 1-26-12 8:09PM Like  Reply
I wish I could hug you! That was written so perfectly. - Lifeguardmom  292.5 #657 1-26-12 8:14PM Like  Reply
Thank you for so eloquently posting what many of us were thinking. The pack mentality comment was exactly what I was thinking. It happens far too much in my opinion. We should all keep in mind that the character CMs (all CMs for that matter!) are selected/hired because they exemplify Disney. Who are we to judge?! Let's all keep in mind....WWWD (What Would Walt Do)!! - Gia  782.1 #119 1-26-12 8:18PM Like  Reply
I can't imagine being a face character is an easy job, and I wouldn't be surprised if it would make their day to come in here and see that they spread a little magic. Thanks for posting this Dave! - Missshelly  690.3 #145 1-26-12 8:24PM Like  Reply
Thank you for posting this Dave.  Nicely put. - LAFDWifey  81.5 #3257 1-26-12 8:25PM Like  Reply
👍👍 - iFramedRogerRabbit  1956.2 #36 1-26-12 8:25PM Like  Reply
Well said Dave!! :-) - disneymomma1  316.1 #536 1-26-12 11:52PM Like  Reply
Im so glad you spoke up about this bulling. I saw the day they were making fun of princess nd felt so bad I just removed it from my thread. I would have reported but Im not up that rank yet. Hope everyone has a better understanding of how much their comments really mean to each cast member. We should have the upmost appreciation of every cast member at disneyland. - luvsariel  213.5 #1435 1-27-12 12:03AM Like  Reply
Bump - Vegaspooh  118.5 #2756 1-27-12 9:45AM Like  Reply
✨👏👏👏✨ - Disneymomof4  29.7 #4380 1-27-12 12:05PM Like  Reply
It is sad that a post addressing this deplorable behavior even has to be requested to stop. Thanks for speaking up Dave.  It is my dream to some day play the Fairy Godmother at DL (but in a few years so I can "mature" in looks a bit more LOL) and I would be absolutely crushed if complete strangers were bashing my looks or performance.  Shame on them and for making MouseWait a negative place for the hard-working CM's.    - DesperateMousewife  873.8 #102 1-27-12 8:21PM Like  Reply
you always said I would make a good Fairy - Dave   8632.6 #2 1-27-12 10:20PM

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